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Raccoon · Apr 14, 2009, 05:57 AM // 05:57

I personally wouldn't touch the in game store with any credit card of mine. But we get a free slot anyway. Honestly, I think anet are regretting been free to play and they just realized that they need more money to make gw2.

So in hopes that this helps the production of gw2, /notsigned.

cataphract · Apr 14, 2009, 06:16 AM // 06:16

Voted for option number two.

I remember buying an additional character slot for $10 via the in-game store. With a minimal investment of in-game resources a character can hold more than twice the amount of items a storage tab can.

I'm not a big fan of micro payments either. Reminds me a bit too much of asian hard-core grind-fests. Let's hope GW2 doesn't follow their dark path.

The Little Viking · Apr 14, 2009, 07:00 AM // 07:00

I wont buy them... for 1, I can go to Amazon and get a copy of factions for 10.00 (2.99 shipping also of course), so a total of about 13.00, comes with 4 charicters, I can get a whole lot more storage doing it that way for almost the same price. And for the one person that says you have to swap accounts and get someone to hold stuff while you get on the other account, you need to look into how to run 2 accounts at the same time.
http://www.guildwarsguru.com/forum/s...php?t=10301247
It works real well, alot of folks in my guild use it, with NO problems at all.

Lourens · Apr 14, 2009, 07:32 AM // 07:32

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Originally Posted by The Little Viking

I wont buy them... for 1, I can go to Amazon and get a copy of factions for 10.00 (2.99 shipping also of course), so a total of about 13.00, comes with 4 charicters, I can get a whole lot more storage doing it that way for almost the same price. And for the one person that says you have to swap accounts and get someone to hold stuff while you get on the other account, you need to look into how to run 2 accounts at the same time.
http://www.guildwarsguru.com/forum/s...php?t=10301247
It works real well, alot of folks in my guild use it, with NO problems at all.

a lot of people don't even need more storage then they have already.
and maybe i should mention this A-net gave us 3 free storage tabs already (we only had 1,1+3=4

) and i almost forgot the crafting material storage.

and I don't trust that gwx2 program , using 2 windows accounts works the same

Shasgaliel · Apr 14, 2009, 08:28 AM // 08:28

The only issue I see is not charging for the additions but adding them to online store which excludes a lot of players. Not every kid has a credit card and not every parent is willing to use his credit card in the online game. In some countries this methods of payment are popular but in some are not (matter of trust not the capabilities). I can see that several people are excluded just beacause of that and will be for "free" option.

cataphract · Apr 14, 2009, 08:36 AM // 08:36

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Originally Posted by Shasgaliel

Not every kid has a credit card and not every parent is willing to use his credit card in the online game.

Actually, I consider this a push in the right direction for those kids. They should be out in the open playing ball, breaking windows, jumping hoops, falling off skateboards, trying to set the neighbour's cat on fire and other fun stuff kids do.

distilledwill · Apr 14, 2009, 09:29 AM // 09:29

$10 is too much. We can get a new character slot for not much more.

I'm not objecting cus its too expensive in principle, just in relative terms when looking at the extra character slot.

Longasc · Apr 14, 2009, 09:36 AM // 09:36

We are experiencing the slow and subtle change from a one-time payment model to a still fee free, but actually really old and well known payment model: micro payments, item mall etc.

They did not manage to produce a new chapter every 6 months. In fact, 1 year was already pushing them to the extreme. Gaile Gray also expected that we are in GW2 Beta stage in early 2009, project schedules at ANet always seem to be by far too optimistic.

GW2 will still be free to play. But they need to make money nevertheless.

Do not be delusional:
People often pay more for free online games with item malls and micro-transactions of all kinds than for subscription based games.

Just check Runes of Magic and Navy Field for example.
In WoW you can buy your mount ingame, in Runes of Magic you go to the shop.

I bet we are soon at the point where we wish that GW2 would be subscription based? And come with LOTS of storage and char slots by default, all the many things you can imagine!

We will soon experience the joys to see what can be considered "optional" - I mean, the game is free to play, isn't it? :>

I think the boycott will not change anything, but it is still a good thing to do. They are probing how much they can milk us. It is time to say no.

Some People say that 10 $ for one storage tab is acceptable. They accept that they have to buy storage. In fact, we did not get storage and char slots till we asked them to sell them to us...

There are many games based on the micro transaction model out there, but none is trying to hide and veil that as much as Guild Wars.

This is pure hypocrisy.

Red Sonya · Apr 14, 2009, 10:09 AM // 10:09

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most people are overjoyed that they are giving us this option and will happily pay the measly $10 for it.

No they aren't nearly 75% just here say NO! Now you want to go and say MOST will HAPPILY pay the way overpriced $10 for it? hahahah Keep dreamin buddy and quit lying as well.

Raven Wing · Apr 14, 2009, 10:39 AM // 10:39

I think its fair that we are given some free extra storage and then option to buy more. However, since I prefer to buy my games in my local store Im not going to buy if its only sold on that official site.

Shasgaliel · Apr 14, 2009, 10:42 AM // 10:42

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Originally Posted by Longasc

Some People say that 10 $ for one storage tab is acceptable. They accept that they have to buy storage. In fact, we did not get storage and char slots till we asked them to sell them to us...
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I think I recall that in the few sardelac threads about the storage people were suggesting that to ANET and I think (I might have some delusions) that someone from Anet (was it not regina?) wrote that they may have a look at the ideas providing they can cover their development cost by selling them later on.

I think with the GW2 coming there would be no really free new content in gw1. If they need to spent money on something in gw1 they will need to cover costs of the development. I prefer to get storage additions for money than nothing at all.

Taddayo Kun · Apr 14, 2009, 10:53 AM // 10:53

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Originally Posted by DreamWind

I have to get involved in this thread.

Also, it was optional for Anet to give us extra storage for free and they didn't. The idea that being optional in and of itself makes it ok is dumb. You have to give us better reasons.

To give us more storage or extra content, they need server space. This costs money. And for the record, they ARE giving us more storage space for free in the form of equipment storage and an extra bag slot AND offering optional slots for storage.

It's very simple, if you don't like it. Nobody is forcing you to buy it. Guild wars is a business, and corporations need to make money, why is that so hard for you people to understand? They don't make video games to be nice, they make them so they can make money.

Guys, get over it. Stop whinging like children who have had their toys taken away.

Gun Pierson · Apr 14, 2009, 10:56 AM // 10:56

I don't have a prob with the fact they use their store to sell 'optional' stuff, they're a company doing business. What I do have a problem with is that they just released this info about 'two' weeks before the update goes life. They long knew they were gonna charge for some of it.

So the story that they were gonna work for months on a bigger update (to give us some more features) instead of some monthly smaller stuff smells a bit fishy now. Just be honest from the start to avoid E-drama afterwards.

That said, I'm considering to buy the option just to sponsor Anet, but I would like no bullsh1t in the future from them, just the naked facts. Although an extra character slot or another chapter seems more interesting, price wise.

slowerpoke · Apr 14, 2009, 11:04 AM // 11:04

Alot of games (PC and Console) these days, non MMOS included have micro transactions in the form of DLCs. The current trend will only continue and no doubt increase.

Lourens · Apr 14, 2009, 11:04 AM // 11:04

other pay methods would be good , I could get a credit card but only for those stupid extra tabs? I rather not , not to mention the 30 bucks every year I have to pay for the credit card.

Fril Estelin · Apr 14, 2009, 11:11 AM // 11:11

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Originally Posted by Red Sonya

No they aren't nearly 75% just here say NO! Now you want to go and say MOST will HAPPILY pay the way overpriced $10 for it? hahahah Keep dreamin buddy and quit lying as well.

75% of what again? Of people who voted in this thread, which are in Guru? And what part of the GW community is this overall?

The price is slightly over what I'd pay for the convenience, but I'm sure people will buy it. Enough to make it rentable? Time will tell.

pumpkin pie · Apr 14, 2009, 11:19 AM // 11:19

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Originally Posted by Longasc

snipped to save space, please read post above

micro transaction mmorpg does not have a starting fees, this is worse then micro transaction, its sneaky lol imho.

Tommy's · Apr 14, 2009, 11:24 AM // 11:24

A boycot lol? QQ less and sell more..

To stay on the topic, I think 10dollar isnt so bad, it's just that many people dont want to use/dont have a credit card. Maybe Anet should have thought about that.
But still don't get where everyone is QQing about. If we would have had the storage update without being able to buy them (which means we get one tab + a epuiment bad) everyone would be; Jippie Hurrah YAY YAY! and just because we can get MORE with a small payment its; BOOOOOH Anet is scamming us!
Too many people are just way too spoiled or way too stupid.

Longasc · Apr 14, 2009, 11:27 AM // 11:27

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Originally Posted by pumpkin pie

micro transaction mmorpg does not have a starting fees, this is worse then micro transaction, its sneaky lol imho.

Indeed.

The "vision" of GW changed a lot of times over the years (for example the PvP endgame they envisioned for Prophecies, the item-shop and so on), and you know, good intentions often do not last that long.

But initially it was the pay once, and hopefully buy and a new chapter every half a year model. Thus the "full price", similar to a singleplayer game.

How much we will have to pay for a GW2 retail box or if we will have to pay for it all depends on their payment model.

Nobody knows what it will be in the end, probably not even ArenaNet, not this early. But I am sure we will see many more micro-transactions.

Scary · Apr 14, 2009, 11:43 AM // 11:43

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Originally Posted by Crucist Ovv

A boycot lol? QQ less and sell more..

To stay on the topic, I think 10dollar isnt so bad, it's just that many people dont want to use/dont have a credit card. Maybe Anet should have thought about that.
But still don't get where everyone is QQing about. If we would have had the storage update without being able to buy them (which means we get one tab + a epuiment bad) everyone would be; Jippie Hurrah YAY YAY! and just because we can get MORE with a small payment its; BOOOOOH Anet is scamming us!
Too many people are just way too spoiled or way too stupid.

Indeed, Sell more.. or what ever.. I play this game as a lot more, for almost
4 years now. And yes I was happy with the material storage. But the big
fuzz over storage, I really dont understand. What are you all putting in your
storage.. char bags what ever.
Men if those things are all full than you really are stuffd with things that you
dont need, or you are to rich that every thing is full with rare materials.
If that is the case...men than all the fun in the game must be gone for you.

its just normal to pay for further updates, the game was free yes.
but that doesnt mean the rest have to be